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Here is my first coin carving I've done in several years inspired by the recent direction we seem to be going. It's titled "The Death of Liberty" It is a 1922 Peace Dollar which I've re-engraved in the hobo nickel style. I may produce a struck version later.

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That is facinating. Give me more words to google - I want to understand the technique.

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Do you have any for sale? I would be a customer.

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Ruprick, google "hobo nickel" for more info. The Original Hobo Nickel Society is an organization of hobo nickel collectors. They have a website with some some great images and history.

madfranks, This is a one-of-a-kind piece that took about 3 days to carve. If there is enough interest, I would like to produce a limited edition of struck pieces with the same weight and silver content as a U.S. silver dollar.

Thanks for your interest

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Amazing work Scratchmo!

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Impressive!

...and sadly a very accurate representation of reality.

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Id buy it in a heart beat if its for sale!

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Scrathchmo, was just thinking about you the other day wondering whatever you might be up to. Here you are showing us what you've been up to.

Nice work, I'd be interested in a mass produced version if the premium were kept under $2 over spot.

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I'm starting to lean this direction. So far, the interest seems high. It's either do a HUGE mintage and make a little per piece, or a very limited edition with a huge premium. I'm going to the Ft.Worth ANA show this weekend and will be showing it around to get a better feel where the market would be.

I'm also undecided on dies and production. I can hand cut the dies, but I'd rather try to have a die produced from this piece if I can do it without destroying it. Of course, I will sell this one eventually or if someone offers stupid money for it, but for now, I'm having a lot of fun owning the only one. It's an important piece to me since it's the first of a series I am working on.

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Me too.

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Any alteration to the reverse? (very nice by the way) im impressed. Can put me down for a minimum of 20.

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So far, the reverse is original except for my initials and serial number 01. The struck version will be different, but I'm still working on the concept. I'm thinking of doing basically the same design with some alterations to the motto and word "Peace".

I'm actually getting pretty excited about the project just from the encouraging comments on this site. I'll get right on the die work. Thanks again for all the positive response.

BTW, If anyone has any ideas as to the wording changes or design concepts for the reverse, I'm open to suggestions, but I'd rather not reveal what my exact plans are at this point.

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Would you do it in .999 or 90% ?

If it turned out good... which from your talent it looks like it would,
I would guess you could sell at least 1000 here if it was kept within a $2-3
over spot range.

Cool stuff.

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Count me in for a couple, as well!

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Put me down for one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! can you make them out of 1oz rounds????

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I have a couple of the "hobo" nickels, one that's a pizza man, and one that's an army man. I have a lot of respect for the talent that it takes to carve a coin like that, it is an art form.

Personally I'd rather own one that's been carved like the one pictured rather than stamped out of new silver, because to me, the significance in transforming a real Peace silver dollar into the resultant design is as important as the design itself. However, the premium would be very high with 3 days of work going into each one.

Scratchmo, whatever you decide to do, mass produce or not, you have a real work of art there. Very nice! If you would consider carving another one to sell, please PM me with what you would ask for it.

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Yep, Props on the work... Seems like it would take great skills and attention to detail...

I've seen a couple of cool ones, but thats is actually, one of the cooler ones I've seen...

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I'm torn on this. As a silver bullion piece, it would probably be more desirable as a standard one ounce round in .999, but I kind of like them in 90% because they can be toned easily like the carving. I think the patina adds something to it since it's kind a "dark" subject to start with. Since you're talking 1000 pieces, what would you prefer?

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Definately interested in buying a couple if you strike some.

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Speaking as a dealer, I would prefer 999. I hate to address idle inventory however, it could be an issue. 999 is easy to deal with. 90% material must be refined. Just my 2 cents.

'cubed

Allow me to add. I feel that a "coin silver" offering could be very successful if it was a limited edition.

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Death of Liberty is awesome. Get in touch with APMEX. Make the dies. Sell the coin. Sooner rather than later or someone else will beat you to it (and maybe with your own carving). I'll take #20.

We could use a new GIM round BTW and I would certainly vote for your design.

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You are the artist!!!!!!!

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You have a point. I do have it on the fast track, but I still feel confident enough in my work I believe my version will still be the best. Anyway, there's a lot more where that came from. I'm working on an entire series along the same lines without being too redundant.

I'd be very much interested in creating a GIM round. This design could work well with a GIM reverse design. The design may be too controversial to be universally accepted, but my gut feeling is that the majority of GIM members are EXACTLY the audience that would appreciate it the most.

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For the back, maybe lady liberty with her head down in shame/crying? Or the peace Eagle doing the same. I realize that a crying eagle would be odd and hard to do. So maybe instead of the wings open wide like on the half dollar, they would be covering the birds face?

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Nice work!
I'll kick off the bidding $100
We may not hit your price but let's see what someone would pay here at GIM. (serious bids only)

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I'll subscribe to five @$110

Give me an address and the $$$ will go FedEx.

CC

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Quite excellent...

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Props on the great work. If this becomes the new GIM round I'm a buyer.

I like this round because it's disturbingly true.

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Best new piece I've seen in ... well, it's great.

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That is simply farking cool. Good job, man!

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6-FOOT PICTURED COIN Should BE on 1,000,000 BILL BOARDS (next to the INDIAN CASINO ones)

With slogan in 3 foot letters!

"IN 'GOV' WE TRUST" Underneath

And:

"Wake Up people your money is dishonest!" in 3 foot letters!

"NO wonder you GAMBLE you lost your MORAL compass" in four foot letters!

:realmad: sadly it will never happen; instead this WILL happen:

http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials...lie032410.html

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We need to choose our own dates though, 2000 works for me, or 1965.:36_3_16:

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Not to be a dick, but, 1000@ $3 in front of spot is $3k 'profit', subtracting Scratchmo's outlay for dies, coining charges, etc..
You'll put the man in the hole like that, unless he's gonna produce, he can't be profitable with those small numbers.
*PME* wants 79� in front for a generic in 500+ counts.
Geez o'pete, come off some of your bux for the man's artwork.

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X2.

Well done! Both in concept and in execution. :23_28_100s:

I would love to add one to my collection.

ST

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I think we may have found the artwork for Agman's bosses billboard - with the OP kind permission of course.

Again - Bravo!!!

ST

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The Peace dollar eagle on the reverse could be transformed into a scrawny chicken, to represent the lost wealth of the American people.

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I didn't say I'd buy 1000oz., I said he could probably sell 1000 to people at this site if he kept his prices reasonable.
If he needs $5-7 over spot to make money, I doubt he would have near as many takers at that price.
Would you buy 20 at $7 over spot? I know I wouldn't.

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I will. And much more.

IMVHO, this is one of the more truly inspired works of art I have come across in quite awhile.

Great art has historically been borne of protest and subversion against the tyranny of the elite, the ignorant majority or those that are simply afraid.

Brilliant. The works value goes far beyond it's intrinsic value.

ST

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Right, and maybe, just maybe, be able to buy a cuppa coffee and a donut with the profits, or he can just finish that one, and auction/sell it for 'boo-coo Delores' (to quote Jeff Spicoli), and enjoy the profits of his talent.



The OL dealer I mentioned sells:
Aus. Phil.s for $2.29 over for 500 pcs.
Can. ML's for $2.19 over for 500 count
ASE's for 1.99 over @ 500 coins

And these are from governments that produce how many coins?

Yet you expect an artist to sell his art, his talent, a, how do you say, limited edition, for 2 to 3 dollars over.

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That's a total winner... The death of Liberty... In Gov we Trust.... excellent...

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Sell the image... I see T-shirts and tattoo's.

Get a hold of Alex Jones or FoxNews (ok, well maybe not FoxNews:)...

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I am really impressed sir. I would be in for a roll of them and would pay easily spot +$4 each in a heartbeat. I want these to pass out to friends and family.

Simply amazing work.

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bump for anyone who hasn't seen this thread.

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This is absolutely incredible. I would definitely be interested in purchasing a few.

I say we move this thread to the main page.

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Put me down for one. I know some other people who will buy some.

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That is VERY good work.

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This is spectacular work.

If you would consider a commission offer---

I would like a Liberty with Lady Liberty showing tears and a crown of thorns and the eagle with our flag upside down imposed on his wings.

GOD HELP US on the front. IN GOD WE TRUST on the reverse.

Along with any ideas you would have.

You give me a $# and it will go out as quick as I can get to the post office.

CC

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I would simply leave the reverse the same except replace the word "PEACE" with "WAR". Another alteration might be to change the eagle to something more "nazified". Rather like the pins on the SS uniforms.

You will probably have to remove the "ONE DOLLAR" text as well to be legal.

And I would buy a roll at spot +5. One ounce at .999 might find a broader market, but there is something haunting about having it in the same size and purity of the formerly strong US dollar. Fits with the mood of the coin.

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Great ideas here...This could get big!

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That would make a nice 5 ounce proof IMO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:emotions16:

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Grest looking coin! Like others above I think any reproductions should stick to 90% silver.

I'd buy one if they become available.

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G.I.M. should make it the NEXT G.I.M. coin and give the artist a few BUCKS per...


ONLY make the DATE 1913 "FED DAY!"

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Hard Times Token?

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WOW!!

I just returned from the Ft. Worth ANA show. I'm just overwhelmed with the response this thing has been getting, and impressed with all the suggestions that GIM members have come up with pertaining to reverse concepts, etc. It didn't seem to play very well here in my home town which is filled with kool-aid drinking "true believers"

And thanks for looking out for me, guys. It was pointed out in a few threads that I should price these at more than just $2-$3 over spot. After some initial research, I realized I can't even produce them for that much. I sold my big knuckle joint press, and don't have the capability to strike them myself anymore, so I'm having to go elsewhere for all production. It will have to be priced higher. I can design all day long, but to come up with something that has this kind of appeal comes along very rarely in this artist's life. So yeah.. I'd like a decent paycheck on this one.

I've got some ideas for the reverse, but I'd rather not reveal them at this time as I fear someone may already be busy trying to beat me to the punch. It will still have the basic look of the original Peace Dollar reverse to keep it in theme.

Thanks again to everybody for all the glowing comments and great suggestions.

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Very cool design. I want one!

In keeping with your plan to retain the basic look of the Peace dollar reverse, may I suggest a Latin translation to the effect of "a shadow of former greatness" instead of "e pluribus unum"? I came up with "ab maiestas umbra" using an online translator, but someone more familiar with Latin may need to correct this.

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You must be a mind reader. I was thinking along the same lines. I came up with another one, but I like what you've come up with.

I'm still stuck on the main legend "UNITED STATES OF AMERICA" I was thinking "ALTERED STATE OF AMERICA" or "SOCIALIST STATES OF AMERICA" or something along those lines. Again, I'm open to suggestions. I may just keep the original USA.

This is on the fast track, and I hope to have struck pieces by the end of April. I can't thank you all enough for the support and encouragement I've received through GIM.
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I'll definitely pick some up.
Spot silver seems to be climbing pretty fast.
Maybe with some luck you will get a big pullback right when you are ready to make your big silver purchase.

God's Peace
and good luck on your artistic venture.
TLM

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Please let us know when you are ready to take orders.

ST

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You could change the "ONE DOLLAR" to "ONE DONUT"

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Try this on for size
"The United States of Goldman Sachs (top)
Eagle perched on a sack of cash $
Instead of "One Dollar"...use "Tax Dollars"
Eagle smiling
http://www.luckyfinder1.com/image/1922_2.jpg

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Shouldn't that be "Socialist States of OMERICA"?

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Uh ... We liked the one we saw in the first post. Don't futz it up with a lot of philosophy!

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X2
I usually avoid adding my .02 to an artist's creative process, but I do strongly agree with Saul. IMHO the first iteration is a pure, simple statement that works on many levels. Adding to it may diminish the work.

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I won't change anything on the obverse, but there's still a reverse side. Are you all suggesting to leave it original? I will still have to change at least the ONE DOLLAR.

One thought I had is to do just that. Since it's "the other side of the coin", (literally) it could have a more positive statement contrary to the rather dark obverse. Besides the denomination, the change the word PEACE to FAITH.

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The ONE DOLLAR could be changed to ONE TROY OZ.

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I have reconsidered my position as a buyer in light of the remarks made in this thread. I am down for one of these coins regardless of premium so long as it is no more than double spot at the time.

Keep us all posted!

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Please feel free to make suggestions. You and Saul make a good point. I had a feeling to go too far with the reverse might muck it up a bit. PLEASE suggest away. Just don't expect me to change a thing with the obverse.

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Hope this doesn't get too off subject, just my $.02

My personal preference would be to not have the political overatures on the backside of the coin, at least not directed specifically at one party. Both parties have racked up huge amounts of debt, and to blame it all on one side versus the other ignores that if both sides are not going to fix the issue, then we are all screwed.

Besides that, I think the work you did was incredible. I believe sunshine mint will make custom rounds, you may check them out. You might consider letting them use the design, and in exchange you get to sell a certain quantity of proofs that they will never mint.

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there are some jewelry stores that you can give a piece of work to, then they will make a rubber impression (negative mold ... the original is a "positive".)

once they have the rubber impression, they can make wax patterns and then use conventional lost-wax casting.

what part of the country you in ?

anyway, beautiful work :RockOn: